Post by Jlhfit on May 26, 2005 15:35:51 GMT -5
I've been doing alot of research and all the crap about oh I burn at 1x or I burn at 4x and so forth, it only boils down to 2 factors. 1- QUALITY OF DRIVE and 2) MEDIA QUALITY.
I have not found anywhere where it says that burning faster makes the disc spin faster when you play it on the PS@ or DVD player. The problem is the fact that say you have a lower quality disc drive and a high quality media and you burn at say 8x, you put in the disc and it doesnt work...hmmm the reason is because the low quality drive produced errors on the HIGH quality disc, causeing it not being to be read. Ok now you have a good to great quality drive and your burn at 8x on a low cheap quality media and it works fine... That is the basic principle behind burning. Thats where you get TRIAL AND ERROR.
I personally use a very cheap quality media, I burn at 8x on a pretty good quality drive and EVERY DISC I HAVE WORKS PERFECT and the speed does not chage when reading when I play it on the PS2 when I change writing speeds.
The idea of burning at slower speeds originated a few years back, with the second and third generations of CD burners. Sony's DeMoulin recalls that the standard for disc mastering used to be 1X. "It used to be that a slower speed gave you the better burn. But with today's faster drives, sometimes the middle speed is the best." Some drives, he adds, start at 8X for a CD-R burn, so you can't turn the speed down any further, even if you wanted to. The error rate is much higher on higher speed CD and DVD drives, and the function of errors is related to the media and the burner combined.
But slowing down the burn speed is not a fix for disc error problems. Some experts point out that there hasn't been conclusive evidence that downgrading the speed from the drive's optimized speed may be helpful in achieving a better burn. Othersindicate that varying the disc's write speed can help improve the burn. Often, slowing the drive down means it doesn't vibrate as much.
In theory, any disc should work with any drive; after all, the drives and the media both conform to basic manufacturing standards for the various disc formats. In reality, the drive's firmware is coded to match the media's identifying stamp; and if support for a specific media type isn't in the drive's firmware, the drive may not perform at its best. For example, it may not achieve its maximum write speed or it may burn a disc full of errors.
Even if the disc plays fine, and the data verification goes smoothly, I recommend checking the disc for errors. Not all CD and DVD burners are capable of reporting error information; this depends upon the drive's chip set. However, many drives support this feature--including models from such major vendors as Lite-On and Plextor.
By design, CDs and DVDs have error correction capabilities built in that provide redundancies on the disc to compensate for problems as they arise. Error correction is a function of both the drive reading the disc and the disc itself, which is one reason that one drive might be able to read a disc that another drive can't.
Nero CD-DVD Speed (included in Nero 6), InfinaDyne Software's CD/DVD Diagnostic, K-Probe (a downloadable app for Lite-On drives), and other similar utilities can report on disc errors and provide valuable baseline information about the quality of the burn you've produced. The idea here isn't to expect a disc with absolutely no errors. expecting 0 errors is unrealistic. You will always see some C1 errors, the lowest level of errors found on a CD or DVD; both the drive and the media's error correction code can easily and seamlessly compensate for these errors. But the number of errors you'll get will depend on the drive and the media being used in combination with one another.
Any questions, and yes I got alot of this from various sources, Sony,Memorex and a couple others.
I have not found anywhere where it says that burning faster makes the disc spin faster when you play it on the PS@ or DVD player. The problem is the fact that say you have a lower quality disc drive and a high quality media and you burn at say 8x, you put in the disc and it doesnt work...hmmm the reason is because the low quality drive produced errors on the HIGH quality disc, causeing it not being to be read. Ok now you have a good to great quality drive and your burn at 8x on a low cheap quality media and it works fine... That is the basic principle behind burning. Thats where you get TRIAL AND ERROR.
I personally use a very cheap quality media, I burn at 8x on a pretty good quality drive and EVERY DISC I HAVE WORKS PERFECT and the speed does not chage when reading when I play it on the PS2 when I change writing speeds.
The idea of burning at slower speeds originated a few years back, with the second and third generations of CD burners. Sony's DeMoulin recalls that the standard for disc mastering used to be 1X. "It used to be that a slower speed gave you the better burn. But with today's faster drives, sometimes the middle speed is the best." Some drives, he adds, start at 8X for a CD-R burn, so you can't turn the speed down any further, even if you wanted to. The error rate is much higher on higher speed CD and DVD drives, and the function of errors is related to the media and the burner combined.
But slowing down the burn speed is not a fix for disc error problems. Some experts point out that there hasn't been conclusive evidence that downgrading the speed from the drive's optimized speed may be helpful in achieving a better burn. Othersindicate that varying the disc's write speed can help improve the burn. Often, slowing the drive down means it doesn't vibrate as much.
In theory, any disc should work with any drive; after all, the drives and the media both conform to basic manufacturing standards for the various disc formats. In reality, the drive's firmware is coded to match the media's identifying stamp; and if support for a specific media type isn't in the drive's firmware, the drive may not perform at its best. For example, it may not achieve its maximum write speed or it may burn a disc full of errors.
Even if the disc plays fine, and the data verification goes smoothly, I recommend checking the disc for errors. Not all CD and DVD burners are capable of reporting error information; this depends upon the drive's chip set. However, many drives support this feature--including models from such major vendors as Lite-On and Plextor.
By design, CDs and DVDs have error correction capabilities built in that provide redundancies on the disc to compensate for problems as they arise. Error correction is a function of both the drive reading the disc and the disc itself, which is one reason that one drive might be able to read a disc that another drive can't.
Nero CD-DVD Speed (included in Nero 6), InfinaDyne Software's CD/DVD Diagnostic, K-Probe (a downloadable app for Lite-On drives), and other similar utilities can report on disc errors and provide valuable baseline information about the quality of the burn you've produced. The idea here isn't to expect a disc with absolutely no errors. expecting 0 errors is unrealistic. You will always see some C1 errors, the lowest level of errors found on a CD or DVD; both the drive and the media's error correction code can easily and seamlessly compensate for these errors. But the number of errors you'll get will depend on the drive and the media being used in combination with one another.
Any questions, and yes I got alot of this from various sources, Sony,Memorex and a couple others.
